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Did P.E.A.C.E. Dis Greg Nice In 1993?
Since there was no internet in the 80′s and 90′s, there was no discussion about subliminal rap disses of that era. We’re here to uncover them all, as we did recently in the case of Del vs. De La Soul.
One that’s always bugged us was on Freestyle Fellowship’s “Bullies Of The Block”, as seen above. P.E.A.C.E. starts the song off, and in the middle of his verse, he (seemingly) imitates Greg Nice of Nice & Smooth with the line “Wicky Wicky Wicky Wack MC / There’ll be no tricky tricky tricking me!” before reverting back to his own style with “Shut up! Sit back and enjoy the beatdown, sucka!”
The rest of the verse doesn’t seem to apply to Greg Nice, but the competition in general. Anyone out there that can shed some light on this? Discuss.
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It could be just a homage type of thing–that’s how I always looked at it.
It’s always a matter of context, and sometimes hard to tell by the verse (like Cage in Good Morning, wasn’t sure if he was dissing Slug, but apparently not, since he played at Soundset a few years later). In this case it certainly sounds to me like a dis. Then again, we all know that Greg Nice said a bunch of nonsense (don’t get me wrong, I loved Nice and Smooth); maybe he was truly paying tribute by also saying nothing.
You know you can make a whole section of this on the subliminal disses the WU put out and still does.
Let’s be honest with ourselves here, Nice & Smooth made some very fun records, ones I still listen to happily still….but Greg Nice was not a very good MC. So I could see this definitely being a diss, but who knows….without knowing the backstory between the two groups I can’t call it. But I love this type of stuff.
Speaking of, as a big fan of both groups I’ll be embarrassed if it’s a very obvious answer, but does anyone know what beat the Lords of the Underground allegedly stole from Showbiz & A.G. to spark the line “Fake lords they get strangled with mic cords/taking beats from my LP for sure ain’t healthy”? It’s something that’s bothered me for many, many years.
I wouldnt be surprised if it was, PEACE has always been the enforcer of FF. Even though lyrically I think Acey & Myka could go bar for bar with anyone, PEACE always took it upon himself to check fools. Example: I was associated with an up and coming act called the Resident Ailen Squad and one of the members (Messiah) was a Rasta cat and during shows he would have someone on stage waiving around the Lion of Judah flag. Well the Resident Ailen Squad started bubbling a tiny bit and was opening up for FF, Visionaries, Emonon etc.During one of the shows PEACE goes up on stage and starts going in on Messiah saying that he was biting his style cause he’s the one that originated the waving of Lion of Judah flag in the LA underground scene. They went back in fourth for a little while until they got to know each other then it was squashed but that was the most random reason to go in on someone. So it wouldnt surprise me if he did diss Greg Nice for no apparent reason.
I prefer Greg N-I-C-E over P.E.A.C.E. any day.
At least Nice & Smooth made great music. Most of these rappers don’t understand that it starts with the music. I could care less how dope you are if you have terrible beat selection skills.
No Stupid! he was Dissing……………….. Das -EfX. Didn’t you know that?
^^^That’s just dumb. PEACE has rocked over plenty of great beats, and FF has made plenty of great music.
Greg Nice was a known visitor to the Goodlife so yeah it most likely is a diss and stemmed from an incident that happened between them.
You need MUCH more evidence before you conclude that’s a dis. No one in the comments section can cite to one instance that would lead one to think this was a Greg Nice dis. Hundreds, if not thousands, of people have been active in the LA underground scene. If no one personally saw an altercation between Peace and Greg, this post is needlessly causing division in an already divided culture. Shame on y’all.
ps: Even if they did have a “beef” almost 20 years ago, who cares? That’s between *them* and they probably already forgot about it. Why revive it in 2011? Even though I doubt this was a dis. Why wouldn’t Peace check him by name? Or direct his whole verse towards him? Too random, no evidence, I say NO DIS.
^ Shame on you for taking the topic so damn seriously. This post isn’t “needlessly causing division in an already divided culture” so much as it is creating fodder for hip-hop history nerds to discuss. Who cares about this possible beef? I do. From a rap history perspective it’s fascinating. Competition is a major part of the foundation of Hip-Hop and “beefing” is a way that this spirit of competition has been executed throughout the course of the artform’s history. A post on HHS in 2011 about the topic, whether there was a dis or not, is not going to cause Nice and PEACE to slap each other with gloves, walk ten paces and duel it out.
All that said, after listening again, whether or not he’s dissing Greg Nice, PEACE is definitely imitating him there NO QUESTION. Like I said earlier, i don’t hold Nice in high regard as a lyricist, but dude had one of the most distinctive flows and voices out there. That was no accident. Just a matter of whether it was homage or parody.